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[00:33:04]alice|wlhi
[00:33:50]alice|wlI m playing with the bureaucracy plugin, its fun
[00:33:55]alice|wlI addet multiple actions
[00:34:30]alice|wlhaving problems styling fieldsets though ... I d like to have unique ids for them
[00:34:56]alice|wlthats probaly up to inc/form.php or similar I d guess
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[01:21:18]alice|wlis it no possible to nest fieldsets ...
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[02:24:14]gandalfcomeI am using the csv plugin and am trying to parse arguments to it, but am failing miserable: <csv <file> velshift:solar_shift_table.dat delim=tab>
[02:24:14]gandalfcome</csv>
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[08:46:26]splitbrain'morning
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[08:54:43]xsteadfastxdid anyone ever got the upload plugin working?
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[09:32:11]lolmausMorning everybody
[09:32:47]dommelmoin
[09:40:07]xsteadfastxmoin
[09:40:10]xsteadfastx:)
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[09:44:50]splitbrainsplitbrain pokes chimeric
[09:52:01]chimeric*ouch*
[09:52:08]splitbrainhaha!
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[09:53:13]chimericmoin btw
[09:54:07]chimericwork work demands my attention for ~30min ...
[09:57:10]splitbrainchimeric, tell me when you're back. I need to talk to you
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[10:07:49]chimericsplitbrain: re
[10:08:42]chimericchimeric is a really fast cutter when procrastination demands it
[10:10:01]splitbrain\o/
[10:10:38]splitbrainso chimeric I'm waiting for a mail from you saying "yeah I want a dokuwiki microblogging account"
[10:10:43]splitbrain:-)
[10:11:44]chimerichehe
[10:12:17]chimericyou know you're talking to that guy who was 1step away from quitting micro blogging alltogether ;)
[10:13:24]splitbrainwhich was a stupid idea anyway and you knwo that
[10:13:47]splitbrainI'll just send you your account =)
[10:14:20]chimericdo as you wish
[10:14:45]chimericI'll use it to post plugin updates and stuff ...j
[10:14:48]splitbrainexactly the words I love to hear ;-)
[10:15:06]chimeric:)
[10:15:38]chimericI'm kind of not in the mood to work on anything ... lots of stuff to do, moving and all that
[10:17:00]splitbrainyeah I know that feeling
[10:17:09]chimericoh and I started to waste valuable life time playing a MMORPG
[10:17:19]splitbrainany party planned for the new flat?
[10:17:26]chimericnot sure yet
[10:18:26]*dommel (~eckelmann@91-64-88-117-dynip.superkabel.de) entered the channel
[10:18:30]chimericthe last time I made a party in my own flat I found the walls of my living room painted with permanet marker stick figures and funny sayings
[10:18:47]chimericthe next day
[10:19:03]splitbrainhmm sonds like a fun one ;-)
[10:19:06]splitbrain+u
[10:19:12]chimeric+ I was told I took part in the painting too
[10:19:19]splitbrainLOL
[10:21:34]chimericmaybe sth. small ... I'm glad once this is over ... my mum demanded to help me moving this time
[10:22:20]chimericwhich doesn't make sense - given that I moved completely on my own the last time in one half day (during work)
[10:23:09]splitbrainright I remember you just own a few boxes full of stuff right?
[10:23:18]chimericyep
[10:23:39]chimericI don't like to carry things around - also it gives me a feeling of being very mobile/flexible :P
[10:23:49]splitbrainI have at least two boxes of cables and old electronics ^^
[10:24:01]chimerichehe
[10:24:29]chimericI once had those too - but after 2years of not touching them I decided to throw it away
[10:24:48]chimericI whish I'd had kept my gameboy though
[10:24:52]chimeric-had
[10:24:53]splitbrain:-)
[10:26:17]chimericI'll probably get rid of some more stuff this time - I decided to give away all my programming books - they're only catching dust in my bookshelf
[10:26:39]chimericalso, there's the internet
[10:26:55]adrianlangyou are giving away the internet? wow
[10:26:56]adrianlangfor free?
[10:27:18]splitbrainsplitbrain slaps adrianlang
[10:27:23]chimericadrianlang: yep, to my good looking new neighbour girl in new flat
[10:28:26]splitbrainchimeric, I thought about doing this with my "normal" books...
[10:28:51]splitbrainbut I would be more comfortable with it if I had them all in electronic form
[10:28:54]chimericyeah, you read books only once anyway - except some special ones
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[10:30:21]xsteadfastxis it possible to ignore some tags with the cloud plugin?
[10:30:43]chimericthough I don't want to just give them away - I'd feel more comfortable if they end up with someone who has use for them
[10:31:11]chimericxsteadfastx: I don't think so - what does the plugin page say about tag refinements?
[10:31:22]pierrickukhi there, long live dokuwiki, the clouds and my hair!!!!
[10:31:58]splitbrainpierrickuk, I'm pretty sure about the clouds... you hair on the other hand...
[10:32:24]pierrickukwill depend on the cloud plugin behavior I guess
[10:33:15]pierrickukit sits nicely on a sidebar and on a page, but the tags in the cloud are invisible... though clickable
[10:33:47]xsteadfastxchimeric, so i cant use the stopwords.txt for tags?
[10:41:48]chimericxsteadfastx: ah, right, that should work
[10:43:10]xsteadfastxchimeric, i will give it a try :)
[10:44:32]chimericwork work calls
[10:47:36]pierrickukok guys, I will pop in again tomorrow for this invisible tags in my cloud. work's over going home now
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[11:22:55]xixihi there
[11:28:54]xixiI modified the smyleys list using smileys.local.conf and my own icons set is now applied to the pages. So far so good. Now I'd like to have the toolbar in the editor to reflect this too, but I still get the legacy smileys set in the button picker. Did I miss something ?
[11:51:09]splitbraintouch local.php and force a browser refresh
[11:54:48]xixiyes! thanks for the tip, it worked.
[11:58:15]xixialso, is there a clean way to remove/disable entries from smileys.conf ? ATM I use a realy dirty workaround by replacing in smileys.local.conf unwanted smyleys by a tranparent 1x1 gif.
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[14:27:10]Ash_Foxo.o
[14:27:55]Ash_FoxAnyone able to help with a tech issue I'm having?
[14:28:34]Ash_FoxMy wiki runs really slowly at the moment, based on what I've read on the forums I think it might be due to using a .htaccess file.
[14:31:26]dommelhave you tried without the htaccess?
[14:31:43]Ash_FoxI was considering that
[14:31:51]Ash_FoxI'm using it for docrewrites
[14:33:11]Ash_FoxWell, URL rewrites more accurately.
[14:34:43]Ash_FoxTrying it using internal rewrite method now
[14:35:02]TanguyIf it is with Apache HTTPD, you can put the rewrite instructions in the server global configuration rather than in a .htaccess.
[14:36:36]chimericthe problems reported on the forums where caused by using .htaccess auth IIRC
[14:36:45]chimericwhich has nothing to do with URL rewriting
[14:36:53]Ash_FoxOh. Hmm.
[14:37:12]Ash_FoxYeah, I'm only using the .htaccess for URL reqwrites.
[14:37:55]Ash_FoxHuh. And it seems to still be really slow when using the internal rewrite method.
[14:48:29]Ash_FoxOK, with all rewriting off it's really fast
[14:49:19]Chris--Sare you using your own rewriting or dokuwiki's rewrite rules?
[14:49:36]Ash_FoxI was using htaccess rewrite rules before
[14:50:02]Ash_FoxIt started going really slow, so I disabled htaccess rewriting and switched to DW's internal rewrite method, and it was still slow.
[14:50:16]Ash_FoxNow with all rewriting off it's as fast as I would expect.
[14:51:01]Chris--Sthat's strange. rewriting will be slower, but it shouldn't be really slow
[14:52:03]Chris--Sis there anything unusual about the server you are using?
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[14:52:18]raistlinthewizhi there
[14:52:52]Ash_FoxNot that I can think of off the top of my head. the only possible issue there is that it isn't a dedicated server that I own, it's space on shared hosting. But, I have access to my own php.ini and so forth
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[14:53:23]raistlinthewiz_bah i disced any way, im using wiki.getPageHTML xmlrpc call
[14:53:38]raistlinthewiz_which i get the full rendered wiki page html
[14:53:47]Chris--Si wouldn't think a shared host would make much of a difference, unless coincindentally you were testing rewriting when hte server was under load
[14:53:54]raistlinthewiz_the problem is that the returned html uses relative urls like /blabla
[14:54:03]raistlinthewiz_so when i render it on my own site, links are broken
[14:54:14]raistlinthewiz_is there an option out not to use relative urls?
[14:54:37]Chris--Sraistlinthewiz_ yes
[14:54:59]Chris--Scheck out config settings, one should force absolute urls
[14:55:25]raistlinthewiz_ok checking it
[14:55:53]Ash_FoxHmm
[14:56:09]Ash_Foxinternal URL rewriting doesn't work properly for me, I've just noticed.
[14:56:41]raistlinthewiz_great i found the option
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[14:56:53]Ash_FoxThat is, using DW's method
[14:57:41]Chris--SAsh_Fox, that's very odd. it should work for all webservers
[14:57:57]Chris--Sit sounds like there might be something working against you
[14:58:02]Chris--Sis it a linux or windows server
[14:58:04]Ash_FoxPerhaps so
[14:58:09]Ash_FoxLinux, Debian
[14:58:34]lolmausHow do i clear css cache?
[14:58:37]raistlinthewiz_@chris one more question, the canonical option worked, but it just ads the site root url ie http://www.mywiki.com but ignores the namespace :/
[14:59:23]raistlinthewiz_ie i have a page called mynamespace and it has a link somepage (mynamespace:somepage)
[14:59:43]raistlinthewiz_it should link to http://www.mywiki.com/mynamespace/somepage but instead it links http://www.mywiki.com/somepage
[15:00:25]Ash_FoxOK that's very odd. It now is loading as fast as I would expect again
[15:00:35]Ash_FoxThis makes all of no sense.
[15:02:01]Ash_Fox...hahaha. I think I've figured it out. I feel silly now.
[15:02:15]Ash_Fox"PHP upgrades underway - Unix Platform Over the next several days, we will be upgrading our PHP versions."
[15:02:23]Ash_Fox^ on my webspace control panel
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[15:05:45]raistlinthewiz_mm found the solution
[15:05:52]raistlinthewiz_useslash config option was preventing it
[15:05:54]Ash_FoxMine is fine now
[15:06:01]Ash_FoxThaks for trying to help though folks 8O
[15:06:08]raistlinthewiz_now if u use semicolons instead of slash it just works
[15:06:14]Ash_FoxAsh_Fox ker-plodes
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[15:33:02]B_LizzardHi, I'd like to integrate a small javascript thing (fancyzoom) in my dokuwiki web-page and I was wondering what's the best way of doing so.
[15:33:19]B_LizzardI've read the relevant article on the dokuwiki website, but I'm still a bit clueless
[15:33:57]B_LizzardIs the <body onload=... thing a bad solution?
[15:34:13]dommelyes
[15:35:11]B_LizzardSo, I package the script as a plugin (fancyzoom/script.js and so on), but how do I actually have it integrated into my pages?
[15:35:48]B_LizzardI guess I'll have to do the /* DOKUWIKI:include thing instead of the body onload thing?
[15:35:57]B_LizzardIs the end result the same?
[15:35:59]dommel conf/userscript.js <- this is the right place for small js or a plugin
[15:36:39]B_LizzardOr tpl/template/script.js?
[15:36:59]B_LizzardI see... that would be automatically loaded by dokuwiki?
[15:37:02]dommelfor onload u can use:
[15:37:02]dommeladdInitEvent(function(){ command;})
[15:37:08]dommelyes
[15:37:46]B_LizzardI'll look into some other plugin and test, thanks :)
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[15:40:43]B_LizzardSorry to sound like such a complete n00b, by the way.
[15:44:09]Chris--Sno worries, everyone has to start somewhere. :)
[15:49:19]B_LizzardSo, would this be correct?
[15:49:20]B_LizzardaddInitEvent(function()
[15:49:20]B_Lizzard{
[15:49:20]B_Lizzard setupZoom();
[15:49:20]B_Lizzard});
[15:49:37]dommelyes :)
[15:49:59]B_LizzardThe script's documentation calls for a "onload=setupZoom()" thing.
[15:50:04]B_LizzardThanks, dude :)
[15:50:11]B_LizzardOr dudette. :D
[15:50:28]B_LizzardLet's see...
[15:50:30]dommelno prob
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[15:59:50]B_LizzardHmmm, doesn't work with the userscript thing... I tried doing it the "proper" way, with <script> and onload functions, just to see if it works, and it does.
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[16:02:09]B_LizzardI also need to add the ?direct option, but that's no issue.
[16:11:13]lolmaus^_^Yay! include, blog, wrap and data rock the lonely planet!
[16:11:49]Chris--Slonely planet?
[16:12:36]B_LizzardIf I do both the <script> and the onload thing, the fuctionality works.
[16:12:58]B_LizzardIf I put the script in conf/userscript.js and only do the onload thing, it doesn't.
[16:13:20]B_LizzardSo I'm guessing dokuwiki doesn't even include the script to begin with?
[16:15:37]lolmaus^_^Chris--S, "lonely planet" because i've just been listening to "We-R A-Lone On-Zis Pla.Net" by Russian deep house band D-Pulse ^_^
[16:18:33]lolmaus^_^Chris--S, check it out (9.1 mb) http://dl4.filehoster.ru/files/15bf1fdf936effab5d1d3ffe683d8aff96af60375c3ec53104affaeb37/09%20We-r%20a-lone%20on-zis%20pla.net.mp3
[16:19:19]lolmaus^_^Nice background music for rummaging DokuWiki ^______^
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[16:23:07]joerghi
[16:23:50]B_LizzardIn this thread, ack claims the opposite: http://forum.dokuwiki.org/post/7091
[16:23:53]joergwould it be possible to make wiki namespaces for users and groups automatically?
[16:24:25]joergand set the acls to allow write to the user / all users of the group and read for anybody else?
[16:24:54]Chris--SB_Lizzard, dokuwiki generates a single script file from all the scripts required by dokuwiki, plugins and templates
[16:25:14]Chris--Sso if you add a userscript.js, dokuwiki should generate a fresh script file
[16:25:36]Chris--Syour browser may not load it immediately - it will have cached the previous version, try shift+reload
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[16:28:03]Klap-injoerg: i don't know by heart, but did you check the plugins for something usefull?
[16:28:10]Chris--Si think dev dokuwiki has an updated system which convinces browser to reload
[16:28:44]Chris--Sjoerg, it is. you can use variable names in your acl.
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[16:31:44]joergKlap-in, well there's some plugins like "myhomepage" etc.
[16:31:48]joergbut doesn't fit exactly
[16:32:18]joerganyway, in the worst case I just develop a suitable plugin myself :)
[16:33:16]joergwell, and my next question would be: has anybody ever thought about using a dokuwiki installation as opensocial gadget?
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[16:34:52]joergI am developing a portal server for schools at the moment, and I thought, it would be great to integrate dokuwiki
[16:35:12]B_LizzardNah, crap, nothing.
[16:35:39]joergB_Lizzard, because?
[16:35:43]B_LizzardI can see the concatenated file in /lib/exe/js.php, but nothing.
[16:36:01]B_LizzardI touched conf/local.php, force-reloaded it
[16:36:21]Chris--Sis your code in the concatenated file?
[16:36:26]B_LizzardYeao
[16:36:27]B_LizzardYeap
[16:36:36]B_LizzardAnd it's not the addinitevent thing, calling the setupZoom function in <body> doesn't work either.
[16:36:54]Chris--Sare you loading setupZoom?
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[16:37:39]B_LizzardYeap.
[16:37:57]B_LizzardWith /conf/userscript.js, neither addInitEvent nor onload work
[16:38:10]B_LizzardAdding a <script> call in <head> works, though.
[16:38:12]Chris--Sanyway to confirm that setupZoom is loaded?
[16:38:29]B_LizzardWell, I can see it in the /lib/exe/js.php file.
[16:38:36]B_LizzardI'm not sure if the DOM inspector will help
[16:38:57]Chris--Sfirebug, script debugger
[16:41:16]B_LizzardsetupZoom is not defined
[16:41:32]B_LizzardDOM Inspector has some relevant things missing, too.
[16:41:43]B_LizzardI'm guessing it could be the concatenation.
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[16:41:59]Chris--Swhere are you adding the script with setupZoom code
[16:42:29]B_LizzardSorry?
[16:42:41]B_LizzardThe script is in /conf/userscrip.js
[16:42:50]B_Lizzard /conf/userscript.js
[16:44:06]Chris--Sit sounds like its not, otherwise it would be defined
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[16:44:33]B_LizzardWell, as I said, it's in there and I can see the actual code in /lib/exe/js.php
[16:45:25]B_LizzardSorry if I'm being a nuisance.
[16:45:38]B_LizzardI mean, I could just include the script as per normal.
[16:45:47]B_LizzardI'm not sure what the risks/downsides are.
[16:46:31]Chris--Slets get this straight. you can see the declaration of setupZoom in js.php. but when the line to call it runs, it generates an error because its not defined?
[16:47:02]B_LizzardWell, when it's called in <body onload...> I see an error in firefox's error console.
[16:47:23]Chris--Sput your userscript.js in a pastebin
[16:49:10]B_LizzardOK...
[16:49:43]B_Lizzardhttp://pastebin.com/m51d16781
[16:50:23]B_LizzardThis is without the addInitEvent
[16:52:19]Chris--Swhat console error do you get
[16:52:32]Chris--Si'm thinking there could be a namespace clash
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[16:54:15]B_LizzardsetupZoom is not defined
[16:54:21]B_LizzardThat is all.
[16:54:50]lolmaus^_^More than once i got a weird glitch in DokuWiki: some part of page won't display. I managed to make a screenshot:
[16:54:51]lolmaus^_^http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8364/dwbug.png
[16:55:08]Chris--Slolmaus, did you check your php error log?
[16:55:10]lolmaus^_^The text wasn't modified after "Preview" was hit
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[16:56:18]lolmaus^_^Chris--S, nothing there
[16:56:26]B_LizzardOh, maybe something else here:
[16:56:47]B_LizzardError: missing ; before statement
[16:56:47]B_LizzardSource File: http://127.0.0.1/lib/exe/js.php?tseed=1265730790
[16:56:48]B_LizzardLine: 1, Column: 183
[16:56:48]B_LizzardSource Code:
[16:56:48]B_Lizzard.indexOf(from.getAttribute("href").substr(from.getAttribute("href").lastIndexOf("/")))==-1){preloadActive=true;imgPreload=new Image();imgPreload.onload=function(){preloadActive=false;}imgPreload.src=theimage;}}function preloadAnimStart(){preloadTime=new D
[16:57:06]chimericlolmaus^_^: last line in the first list - syntax error: **bold word** stuff ** stuff ** stuff **
[16:57:10]B_LizzardThis does not happen once I remove userscript.js
[16:57:17]chimericthere's one too many "**"
[16:57:54]lolmaus^_^chimeric, thank you!
[16:58:46]chimericlolmaus^_^: you're welcome, first thing to check when output doesn't look like expected is for syntax errors
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[17:01:40]B_LizzardChris--S: That error comes from the function in line 99
[17:02:37]B_LizzardI can't see any missing ; though
[17:04:21]Chris--Sturn off dokuwiki javascript compression
[17:07:59]B_LizzardI don't think it's a compression issue, but I will
[17:08:08]B_LizzardI checked both functions side-by-side
[17:08:14]B_LizzardThey're both exactly the same
[17:09:37]B_LizzardHey, shit, you were right!
[17:09:38]B_Lizzard:)
[17:12:40]B_LizzardSo, now it loads but I still need to do the onload thing
[17:12:50]B_LizzardThe addInitEvent call doesn't do anything.
[17:13:21]Chris--Suse firebug to make sure its being executed
[17:13:25]B_LizzardAlso, the sizes for js.php compressed vs. uncompressed is 72kb vs 135kb
[17:14:02]Chris--Scompressed should just be removing whitespace and comments

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