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[02:42:41]alice|wlhello, is there way to display xml feeds like not rss or atom?
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[06:11:18]sebi`alice|wl: do these sort of feeds have a name? or is it some sort of selfmade feed with no actual standardized format?
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[08:26:14]lolmausHey, there's a great Markdown Extra plugin! But it requires a <markdown></markdown> wrapper. Is it possible to switch default syntax to that instead of using the wrapper?
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[08:30:27]lolmausHey splitbrain
[08:30:50]splitbrainhi lolmaus
[08:30:53]lolmaussplitbrain, 1) When is the next newsletter going to be issued?
[08:31:07]splitbrainno fixed date, yet
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[08:31:40]splitbrainprobably around end of march
[08:31:44]lolmaussplitbrain, 2) I've got another notable usecase in my wiki: inventory base
[08:31:53]splitbrainlink?
[08:32:13]lolmausNo article yet. The wiki is in Russian and closed. :(
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[08:32:20]splitbrainI see
[08:32:25]lolmaussplitbrain, 3) Question: there's a great Markdown Extra plugin! But it requires a <markdown></markdown> wrapper. Is it possible to switch default syntax to that instead of using the wrapper?
[08:33:17]splitbrainnot without a lot of coding (and probably hacking the core)
[08:33:23]lolmausOh
[08:33:26]lolmausI see
[08:33:47]lolmausI thought DW has got an agile syntax replacement system
[08:35:18]lolmaussplitbrain, 4) I've finally got a long-wanted invite to a Russian IT community site. Going to publish a number of articles about DokuWiki there. Do you have an eye to a good DokuWiki overview article for me to use as an introduction?
[08:35:49]splitbrainhmm, the wikipedia page is quite nice
[08:36:31]splitbrainat least the english and german ones, dunno about the russian version
[08:36:35]lolmausThat community has a strict rule that only original material can be published there. That's why i'm going to post my use case article there first and then to dokuwiki.org.
[08:36:53]splitbrainfine with me
[08:39:06]lolmausYeah English Wikipedia articles are always a standard. Russian articles lack impartiality, timeliness, comprehensiveness.
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[11:15:04]gammaproductionhey there - splitbrain, chrisâ€”s - I'm experiencing several problems with the current development release. I figured that at least one comes from the new class autoloader. More specific: I cannot download any plugins anymore, because the "decompress" method in plugins/plugin/ap_download.class.php uses the defines (COMPRESS_XZIP starting line 202) in TarLib.class.php before it has been loaded (autoload does that in line 211).
[11:15:45]gammaproductionanother thing is that the include plugin has some problems - it displays data below the included page - even though it should not - I have not figured out that yet
[11:16:19]splitbraingammaproduction, make sure you have a very recent devel version
[11:16:28]splitbraineg. from this morning
[11:16:31]gammaproductioni just updated 2 hours ago
[11:16:35]splitbrainokay
[11:17:29]splitbrainI see
[11:17:32]splitbrainthat's a problem
[11:18:44]splitbraingammaproduction, can you create bug reports please
[11:18:48]gammaproductionok
[11:19:23]Chris--Sgamma, you can make a fix and push a patch to splitbrain if you like
[11:19:34]Chris--Smove the new line to just after the require
[11:19:51]Chris--Sie. 213 to 201
[11:20:17]Chris--Ssplitbrain, should their still be a require?
[11:20:31]Chris--Sam I looking at an out of date xref?
[11:20:41]gammaproductionchrisâ€”s I think the case is more complicated there
[11:20:54]Chris--Show is that?
[11:21:06]Chris--Srequire, switch, new
[11:21:07]gammaproductionI think xref is out of date ...
[11:21:10]gammaproductionnope
[11:21:17]Chris--Sbecome require, new, switch
[11:21:17]gammaproductionwell not currently
[11:21:26]Chris--Syou're right
[11:21:28]gammaproductionhave a look at the git ...
[11:21:41]Chris--Swe need the switch to do the new
[11:21:45]gammaproductionI'd either add a require or instantiate a dummy
[11:22:16]gammaproductionnot sure which is less expensive - I'm not a pro in memory management ;)
[11:23:28]Chris--Sthose defines probably should be come class constants
[11:23:47]Chris--Sand be referenced using the class name, which should trigger the autoload
[11:24:40]gammaproductionsounds good to me - but will be some refactoring
[11:24:55]gammaproductionand might break plugins that rely on it (are there any?)
[11:25:03]Chris--Sautoloading doesn't work well with code outside of class definitions
[11:25:24]Chris--Stry a quick grep on the constant names
[11:26:04]Chris--Sthe unfortunate thing is its a third party file
[11:26:24]Chris--Sbut it looks like its already been customized, so a little more shouldn't matter
[11:29:25]Chris--Sgammaproduction, splitbrain: git pull doesn't work for me, says it doesn't know what to pull from
[11:29:40]gammaproductionmhm â€¦ haven't had that
[11:29:53]Chris--Sif you do a 'git status'
[11:30:07]Chris--Sdoes it tell you the repositories you have defined?
[11:30:34]gammaproductionnope, just the current branch
[11:30:37]gammaproductionand the changes
[11:30:52]Chris--Sthere are three, master, requireall, stable
[11:30:57]Chris--Si guess we're on master?
[11:31:03]gammaproductionyup
[11:32:04]Chris--Sgot it
[11:32:09]Chris--Sgit pull url master
[11:32:37]gammaproductioncan you do that on an existing repository path?
[11:32:54]Chris--Sit did stuff and didn't complain
[11:32:59]Chris--Sso I'm taking that as a yes
[11:33:01]Chris--S:)
[11:33:02]gammaproduction^^ok
[11:33:25]Chris--Swe're good on the use of the constants elsewhere
[11:34:04]gammaproductionmeaning we could change them to class members without problem in DWs core
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[11:51:42]gammaproductionchrisâ€”s I tried something that may solve the problem â€¦ I'll send a patch to the mailing list for discussion
[11:53:16]gammaproductionits a mix of the current defines and statics in the TarLib clas
[11:53:18]gammaproduction+s
[11:53:41]Chris--Sdid you modify the class itself?
[11:53:50]gammaproductionyes - had to
[11:54:03]gammaproductionI added statics for each define
[11:54:56]gammaproductionso you can call/use them elsewhere using TarLib::Compress*whatever and the class gets loaded and initializes the values using the defines
[11:59:23]Chris--Sdo I need to do anything to get autoloading to work?
[11:59:31]Chris--Sits not loading ziplib for me
[12:00:00]Chris--Sa bug I think
[12:00:42]gammaproductionmhm â€¦ instantiating a ZipLib should be enough
[12:00:50]gammaproductionsee inc/load.php
[12:00:59]Chris--Si did a patch too. i removed all the current defines. that will force anyone using current defines to redo their code
[12:01:34]gammaproductiondunno which way is the proper one :D
[12:01:40]Chris--Sbut I think that would be necessary anyway, as its very unlikely they would be calling TarLib at the same time plugin was active
[12:03:54]gammaproductionthats my suggestion: http://dokuwiki.pastebin.com/M8e41NEC
[12:05:07]Chris--Ssplitbrain ... still here?
[12:05:32]splitbrainI'm here but busy with work stuff, sorry
[12:05:58]Chris--Show does autoloading work?
[12:06:24]adrianlangChris--S: automatically?
[12:06:27]Chris--Si see tarlib and ziplib both in load and both instantiated in the same manner in ap_compress
[12:06:46]Chris--Starlib is loaded fine, ziplib isn't and results in a fatal error
[12:07:14]adrianlangChris--S: Thereâ€™s a typo
[12:07:20]adrianlangIâ€™ll push a fix
[12:08:29]Chris--Swhere is the typo? ... I have other stuff to push ... tarlib constants
[12:08:44]Chris--Si see it :)
[12:08:47]adrianlangChris--S: Just pushed
[12:09:31]Chris--S:P
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[12:23:56]Chris--Sadrianlang, do you have a "master" or "remote" defined in your git config?
[12:24:45]adrianlangSure, y?
[12:25:17]Chris--Si'm new to git, feeling my way
[12:26:06]Chris--Sso now I have a problem, I made the change, you made the change. it fall over when I try to do a pull to get your change before pushing my other changes
[12:26:17]Chris--S*git falls
[12:26:28]adrianlangDo a Â»git pull --rebaseÂ«
[12:26:47]Chris--Sit still refuses
[12:26:54]Chris--Sinc/load.php: needs update
[12:26:54]Chris--Sinstall.php: needs update
[12:26:54]Chris--Srefusing to pull with rebase: your working tree is not up-to-date
[12:27:21]adrianlanggit stash && git pull --rebase && git stash apply
[12:45:45]Chris--Snow I can't push my changes
[12:46:23]adrianlangWhy not?
[12:49:20]Chris--Sits gone ... I've rolled back
[12:50:58]Chris--Sgone in that listing all the snapshots means the message is no longer in my terminal window
[13:20:35]Chris--Si think i figured it
[13:21:12]Chris--Supdate load, reset HEAD (to get rid of install, not needed any more), pull, push
[13:21:58]Chris--Soh
[13:22:05]Chris--Scrazy system
[13:22:16]Chris--Sis was already updated for my change.
[13:22:18]Chris--S*it
[13:22:22]Chris--Snow I did a merge
[13:22:30]Chris--Shmm :O
[13:22:45]Chris--Ssplitbrain. you better take a look and make sure I haven't broken anything
[13:24:55]splitbrainChris--S, seems to be okay
[13:25:23]Chris--Swhich bit was unnecessary ... the push at the end?
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[13:38:22]ZummiG777Question: Is there a way to make just one subset of directories in dokuwiki password protected?
[13:40:14]adrianlangZummiG777: :acl
[13:40:34]ZummiG777Thanks guys!
[13:41:10]adrianlangChris--S: If youâ€™d have rebased, there would not be a merge commit
[13:43:20]Chris--Sis that merge commit, just it working out that we both made the same change?
[13:43:58]adrianlangChris--S: Yeah, sort of
[13:44:10]Chris--Sthe thing that gets me is the time its assigned to my other patch.
[13:44:58]Chris--Sthat is the time I made the patch. is it the time it hit the dokuwiki master repo
[13:47:00]splitbrainthe merge commit is basically an addition to make your original patch apply on the tree (or so I understand it) they are one unit now
[13:48:09]Chris--Sdid my first patch, 'Make constants in TarLib.class.php class constants' hit your repository at the time it says on the web page?
[13:48:29]Chris--Sor is that the time from my system... and its unknown when it hit your repository
[13:49:04]splitbrain28min is probably when it hit the repo
[13:49:13]splitbrainnot sure though
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[14:31:32]chimerichiho
[14:31:38]splitbrain\o/
[14:32:01]chimerico/
[14:32:12]chimericlooks like the requireall patch broke the xmlrpc backend
[14:32:15]splitbrain~o~
[14:32:18]chimericmissing include
[14:32:43]splitbrainthe requireall merge broke all kinds of stuff it seems
[14:32:45]Michituxchimeric: btw. have you had a look at the bugreport concerning file uploads in the xmlrpc backend?
[14:32:50]Michituxhi btw.
[14:32:57]chimericMichitux: nope
[14:33:08]chimericatm bug reports are not very high on my todo list
[14:33:15]gammaproductionhi: chimeric have you tried include plugin with the current version?
[14:33:18]chimericpainting my kitchen/toilete is
[14:33:20]splitbrainchimeric, we just had some fixes in the zip/tarlibs, we probably need some more
[14:33:22]Michituxit's FS#1918
[14:33:24]chimericgammaproduction: nope
[14:33:58]gammaproductionok â€¦ might be broken as well â€¦ having strange behavior that doe not comply to my settings ...
[14:34:06]chimericgood news though, the really busy time at work work is over for a while, I might find some time to look at stuff while I'm sitting in my office
[14:34:20]gammaproductionmight be a problem of the recent merge as well
[14:34:25]chimericI see
[14:34:37]chimericI don't intend to "fix" bugs related to the requireall patch though
[14:34:42]chimericnot before the next DW version
[14:35:03]gammaproductionyeah, ic â€¦ I'll fall back then
[14:35:16]chimericbesides, the include plugin has quite a list of serious problems already which need to addressed first
[14:35:28]chimeric*to be
[14:35:30]gammaproductiongo4it ;) :P
[14:36:05]chimericI find myself doing all kinds of stuff which keeps me away from touching the include plugin at all ;-)
[14:36:16]chimericit doesn't like me anymore :-(
[14:36:33]gammaproductionoh, too bad â€¦ please get back together again :)
[14:36:44]chimericI'll send some flowers ;)
[14:37:13]gammaproductiongood idea. maybe some choclate too
[14:37:53]Michituxchimeric: but according to git blame you aren't the one who wrote that $ftmp = $conf['tmpdir'] . '/' . $id;, I was just wondering why that file with an uncleaned id is unlinked two lines later...
[14:40:44]chimericI can only guess, but probably to make sure the temporary file doesn't exist before it's written
[14:42:54]Michituxchimeric: yes, but there are problems with ids that contain characters that aren't allowed in filenames e.g. on windows, e.g. ":" and I wonder what happens when $id is something like ../../conf/local.php...
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[14:44:56]chimericjust try and see?
[14:47:32]MichituxI currently think it will alow everybody with upload permissions and xmlrpc enabled to overwrite or write any file php can access. but I will try.
[14:47:36]chimericsplitbrain, adrianlang: IXR_IntrospectionServer' not found in /home/chi/public_html/dev/src/dokuwiki/lib/exe/xmlrpc.php
[14:48:01]chimericam I right that it should suffice to add dokuwiki_xmlrpc_server to the array in inc/load.php?
[14:48:08]splitbraincorrect
[14:48:09]chimericcause, I tried that - and it doesn't
[14:48:15]splitbrainhmm
[14:48:29]splitbraineh
[14:48:39]splitbrainyou need to add IXR_IntrospectionServer of course
[14:48:50]chimericheadmeetsdesk
[14:49:06]splitbrain^^
[14:51:23]chimericpatch pushed
[14:52:05]chimericMichitux: that would be very bad :-(
[14:52:05]splitbrain\o/
[14:52:55]splitbrain.oO(I should break things more often - results in more people digging through the code)
[14:53:14]chimericlol
[15:07:25]gammaproductionI don't know what exactly you guys just did, but the problem I had with the include plugin vanished with the latest release
[15:07:40]gammaproductionI mean the latest git pull
[15:07:54]Chris--Ssplitbrain, there is some management speak word for that
[15:09:42]Chris--Screative destruction perhaps
[15:10:08]Michituxchimeric: just confirmed it, it does actually works...
[15:10:17]chimericcool
[15:10:23]chimericnot
[15:10:40]chimericin case you're refering to the xmlrpc thing
[15:11:35]Michituxchimeric: yes, just create a DokuWikiClient-object in your python library, then call client.put_file("../../conf/local.php", "<?php phpinfo();\n") and your dokuwiki is transformed into a php-info-script (and the wiki content is below...)
[15:11:48]chimeric\o/
[15:11:52]splitbrainMichitux, that's bad
[15:12:03]splitbrainluckily xmlrpc is disabled by default
[15:12:08]chimericwell, we restrict xmlrpc calls to users as well
[15:12:19]chimeric*certain users
[15:14:06]splitbrainMichitux, can you push a patch?
[15:14:38]Michituxsplitbrain: yes, but I'm still wondering what the best filename is...
[15:15:05]splitbrainsince it's temporary anyway, I'd go for md5 of something
[15:15:28]splitbrainor isn't it temporary?
[15:16:12]Michituxit is temporary, but I'm wondering what happens when two users upload a file with the same id at the same time...
[15:16:47]splitbrainjust put clientIP() into the md5 data
[15:17:04]Michituxah, cool idea :) and if it's the same client? :P
[15:17:13]splitbrainthen he's screwed
[15:17:16]splitbrain;-)
[15:17:50]splitbrainyou could add some random number if you really like to be sure
[15:18:18]Michituxmight be I'm a bit overcautious concerning such multithreading/processing issues as I'm currently working on a multithreaded c++-application for university...
[15:23:34]Michituxhm, strange, now I'm getting a "ResponseError" from the xmlrpc library in python, but according to the log the response code was 200...
[15:24:17]Michituxchimeric: do you know if there is an easy way to tell what the response was?
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[15:25:04]splitbrainlolmaus, are you still there?
[15:27:45]Michituxah, k, it's clear, my phpinfo()-code is still there :)
[15:28:39]chimericMichitux: in the xmlrpc lib you have to give error code nr - maybe you find it there?
[15:28:49]chimericah okay
[15:29:30]Michituxhm, now I'm wondering if these tmp-files are ever deleted
[15:29:42]Michituxwhen the upload succeeds, the file is renamed to the destination
[15:29:53]Michituxbut when an error occurs, it remains in the tmp directory
[15:45:02]Michituxk, pushed the changes
[15:45:15]Michitux(tmp files are not deleted)
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[15:51:46]Michituxsplitbrain: don't you think FS#1916 should be closed (won't fix)?
[15:52:27]splitbrainMichitux, yes it should
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[16:16:16]lolmaussplitbrain, me leaving now, got 60 seconds :0
[16:16:19]lolmaus:)
[16:16:49]RyanChileding
[16:17:15]lolmaussplitbrain, see you tomorrow!
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[16:45:51]RyanChileanyone?
[16:46:13]chimericdong
[16:46:20]Chris--SRyanChile, you know the drill ask first and wait
[16:46:36]Chris--Sor did you already?
[16:46:40]RyanChileyeah but I just wanted to ask if I'm the only one having disconnection problems :D
[16:46:50]RyanChilethat means apparently I do...
[16:47:09]Chris--Sno disconnection problems here
[16:47:16]Chris--Swhat server are you connected to?
[16:47:25]RyanChilefreenode
[16:47:34]Chris--Sany idea which location?
[16:47:48]RyanChilewho's location? the server?
[16:47:48]Klap-inRyanChile: your connections still shakes
[16:47:54]Klap-in?
[16:48:15]RyanChileapparently my ISP is still shaky, logging out for the moment...
[16:48:20]Chris--Sdo you think its a split or is it dropping you?
[16:54:28]RyanChileok, kinda solved, a plugin was interfering with Pidgin's "persistent" feature...
[16:55:05]RyanChileso now to my issues. I have two questions about the forum profiles:
[16:55:32]RyanChile1.- what is the "wiki-url" field for? and 2.- how long does it take for the DokuWiki Users Map to update if I change my location=
[16:55:39]RyanChiles/=/?/
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